Discussion: Shift Kit How-To/Write Up

Discussion in 'Performance' started by Da_Rebel, Mar 22, 2012.

  1. Da_Rebel

    Da_Rebel Just another guy

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    See post #2 for disclaimer and credit.

    Intro.

    For all you guys wanting or wondering about how and what it takes to upgrade your 4L60E and 4L65E transmissions, this will give you an idea of what you will be getting into. Personally if you are mechanically inclined and have basic hand tools YOU CAN DO THIS. Transmissions can be intimidating due to all the small parts and the amount of parts internally. But if you do your research, read carefully, take your time, keep things organized, clean, and double check your work it can be accomplished.
    What is the point of a shift kit/servo upgrade?

    The best way to describe this (at least that I can describe) is to use the word "overlap". On a bone stock transmission, overlap is referring to the softness between upshifts (1-2, 2-3, 3-4) and also downshifts. For example, when you ride your brakes while driving the pads will fail and wear a lot sooner and generate heat right? Take that and convert it over to what happens in a transmission. When your transmission is shifting into a higher gear, the lower gear has not fully released all the way. So for the short time the transmission is in two gears at once they are essentially "slipping" as one or the other has not fully engaged. Hence the saying "overlap". This is also happens on a downshift as well. This generates heat and removes clutch and band lining at a greater rate. As well as glazing/polishing the clutches, steels, drums, band, etc. When you install a "shift kit" and servo upgrade you are positively modifying the valve bodies ability to apply and/or direct fluid to the clutch or band apply circuit. This firms or quickens shifts by releasing and applying circuits more efficiently and reducing "overlap". Now for those who ask "will my transmission hold up by doing this for so and so mods / horsepower?" There is not answer to that. Again this is a process to help the longevity of the stock 60E due to the issues above. This will not correct breaking of input/output shafts, pinion failure, reaction sun shell breaking, etc. With all that happens inside a transmission it’s hard to tell what’s going to break first with all the variables for a failure.

    What parts to use.


    There are a good handful of parts and pieces out there to choose from when it comes to this upgrade. The parts listed below are parts that I have used and have had good experience with. So I will suggest these to you. I am not at all saying the other parts on the market are inferior such as Trans-Go as many run their product with good luck, but I have not heard anything as far as negative feedback with these. First off, you can easily find 90% of these parts on this website http://www.transmissioncenter.net/4l60e.htm You might have to hunt around a little on the site for the parts but you will find them. They should be in descending order through the web page. I will have the part number first, part name, and a little description as to what it is and why to use it.

    #2 – 4L60E Corvette 2nd Intermediate Servo : This is the servo that comes in high performance Corvettes and Camaros. It has a greater fluid apply surface area which in turn will apply or "grab" the 2-4 band more efficiently. Other options are the Superior and Sonnax 2nds. I have ran both the Corvette and Superior 2nd in different transmissions and in my opinion one isn’t any better than the other as far as applying. They both felt the same. There is thought you will get a better 2-3 shift from the Superior and Sonnax, but for the money the Corvette is by far the best bang for the buck.

    #3 – 4L60E high performance overdrive 4th servo : Made by Sonnax and has a 40% more holding power (fluid apply area) than the factory 4th. This will not remedy the weak 3-4 clutch pack 60E's are known to have but will obviously help (which is the point of this whole write-up)

    #27 – 4L60E / 4L65E oversize .490" pressure boost valve and sleeve. The stock size is .470" and the larger diameter valve will yield a 10% to 15% higher line pressure. Instead of drilling the factory sleeve with the drill bit supplied in the shift kit, you will just replace factory ones with these.

    #37AP2 – 4L60E Billet Forward Accumulator. This piston goes in the valve body and cushions the shock when shifting from reverse to drive. Very common for the factory plastic piston to wear or crack. This will result in fluid loss, delayed engagement, slipping, burned clutches and/or band. This is a very cheap part and should most defiantly be replaced. You will replace a spring or springs in this bore so replace this!

    #37AP – 4L60E 3-4 factory accumulator piston. These are aluminum from the factory but have a tendency for the center hole to wear resulting in loss of pressure. Again, you will have this out so replace this!

    #37AP3 – 4L60E 1-2 factory accumulator piston. Same issue as above. Replace due to having out.

    #K4L60E-L – Superior Shift Kit fits 1998 and up. Self explanatory. As stated above, I am suggesting this kit due to the fact of the positive feedback I have had from it, and others as well.

    You will need to get this from your local GM Dealer.
    P/N 24221349 - GM Updated Valve Body Spacer Plate and Gasket set. Reason behind replacing this is the factory separator plates had an issue with the checkballs deeply wearing into the plate and sometimes all the way through. My factory transmission had shy over 30k miles on it, and one of the checkballs by the 1-2 accumulator housing had worn a pretty good groove in the plate already. Don’t remember the cost, but it wasn’t bad.

    Fluid Filter and Pan Gasket Kit
    You will need a fluid filter and pan gasket kit. You can either get this from your GM dealer while you are there or your local O'Reilly, Napa, ect.

    Fluid
    For fluid brand, that is up to you. To be honest, O'Reilly ATF is perfectly fine and is what I use and many others as well. If you feel you need to have a brand name such as Valvoline go for it. Pick up a case, you will have extra but you can take the extra back or keep it for future instances. Always good to have ATF on the shelf.

    Fluid Friction Modifier

    While you are at your local O'Reillys, pick up a bottle of Platinum Lube Guard transmission fluid friction modifier. What is this you say? In a nut shell, all ATF has some sort of friction modifier in them. They are chemical additives in the fluid that effect how the transmission feels when it shifts gears. Specs vary to one make or model to the other, hence the variety of ATF's out there. As miles add up, or "abuse" is given to the trans heat and consistent shearing of the internal parts break down ATF. When this happens one of the first things that goes is the friction modifiers in the fluid. When this happens shifts may become rough and jerky. Ever heard of someone saying when they changed transmission fluid and filter it shifts so much better? Wala. When filling your transmission up with new fluid, pour a bottle of this in with it.

    Misc
    A few other odds and ends you should have when doing this. If you have access to Vaseline you will need a tiny bit to keep the checkballs in place during re installation. Also 3-4 cans of brake clean.

    Tools
    1/4 ratchet
    3/8 ratchet
    Various metric sockets and wrenches
    Flat blade screwdriver
    1/4 or 3 /8 torque wrench
    Various picks if applicable
    Handle to pry servo cover with
    Drill
     
  2. SMiGGs

    SMiGGs El Super Mod

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    Great info, we should be able to quote the whole thing, and cite it with the original link
     
  3. Da_Rebel

    Da_Rebel Just another guy

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    How – To Write Up

    I don’t have many pictures with this but it should be self explanatory in its own. I have provided the instructions from the shift kit itself with a few notes on them to aid in the installation. You can install this upgrade in two different ways. One with the transmission in the truck or with the transmission out on the bench. Usually if its on the bench you are installing a converter as well. But this can be accomplished with the transmission still in the truck.
    A little tip if doing it in the truck. If you have the time, get the fluid drained the night before and let the excess drip overnight. This will be much easier than having trans fluid dripping down your arms or in your eyes. If you do this, be smart about it. You don’t want to leave the transmission open to foreign elements such as excessive dust and debris.

    • Secure truck on level ground with proper jackstands or safe lifting mechanism. (if you have access to a lift, then you are the man)
    • Remove exhaust. All you need to remove is the mid pipe from the left (drivers) bank coming across to the right. (you pacesetter guys that weld your collectors, you will need to figure something out!)
    • On the left side of the transmission you will find your shift linkage. You can take a flat screwdriver and pop the cable from the linkage rod. You will then see a cable bracket that’s bolted to the trans case. Don’t try to take this bracket off. There is a metal "U" clip that holds the cable in the bracket. Once you pry out the clip, depress the tabs on the cable and shimmy out the cable from the bracket. Set aside.
    • Most likely you guys will be doing this on the floor so the front of the truck will be higher than the rear making the fluid in the pan slosh to the rear of the pan. Loosen the bolts to where fluid will start dripping out of the rear of the pan, then slowly loosen the others. When a steady flow of fluid stops coming out you can shimmy the pan from the cable bracket and set aside. You kind of have drop the right side of the pan down first then take it will come free from the bracket.(you guys that already have a drain plug in your pan, you just made your fluid draining experience easier and less messy)
    • Now you will see your fluid filter. To loosen kind of move side to side till you free it up a bit. Then gently remove.
    • Next is the manual detent spring by the rooster comb. Remove
    • Next is to disconnect all electrical connections. There should be 6-7 connectors. Then last there is two bolts holding the TCC (torque converter clutch) solenoid in place. This is located at the front of the valve body, follow the wiring and you will find it.
    NOTE: Do not try to remove the entire harness from the case. There is a special way to get the connector out of the case and there is no need to do it. So just tie it up out of your way.
    • Next should be your transmission fluid pressure manual valve position switch. Kind of looks like a circuit board by the rooster comb. Should be 5 bolts holding it on, 3 big and 2 small. REMEMBER WHERE THE BOLTS GO. When reinstalling if you get a big bolt in the smaller hole and go to torque, you will bottom out the bolt and snap it off in the case!
    • Next is the fluid indicator stop bracket. This is located on the opposite side of the rooster comb in the front corner.
    • Next is to loosen the valve body. Again it is crucial you remember what bolts go where as there are different size bolts for the valve body. Once you loosen the VB, you will have to take off the link to the manual valve. (again by the rooster comb). NOTE: Be careful when pulling down the VB as there are check balls that will come down with it that is between the VB and case.
    • Next is to remove the 1-2 accumulator housing. This is located in the rear corner of the case. There are 2 small bolts and 1 large. Set aside
    • Next is the spacer support plate. Should be 3 bolts same size
    • Remove gaskets and spacer plate.
    • Next is the servo assembly. There is a round snap ring that holds the assembly in the case. Doing this in the truck can be kind of tricky. You will need to depress the servo into the transmission, then pry out the metal snap ring. Again, this could be difficult while in the truck. If you are doing this on the bench, secure the trans on the table, take the bottom end of a hammer handle or any type of handle and depress the servo in the case then pry out the snap ring.
    • Once you get the snap ring out, there will be a black (if I remember right is factory and blue is aftermarket) o-ring for the servo cover. You will have this o-ring in your servo kit so you can pry some of the o-ring out then cut it. Remove and the servo assembly should pull right out. NOTE: keep the assembly in tact until you go to swap the 2nd and 4th apply servos later. That way you don’t get confused on what goes where.

    Here are the instructions I scanned. Hopefully they are big enough to read. And yes, my hand writing is horrible LOL.

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    NOTE: when performing step 8, make sure when you are installing the plug, not to install with something that will puncture through the plug. Use something that will cover the surface area of the plug and tap it in very slow. Make sure its in there too, you will know when it is seated.

    NOTE: after the servo installation, double and triple check your round snap ring that hold the assembly in the case. It is common for guys to miss this and not have the ring fully seated in the case. Trust me, you don’t want to have this happen!

    NOTE: if you have had your truck tuned by one of the tuners on the site (Wheatley, Blackbear, Zippy) or had someone local. Have them clear your adaptive shifts in your tune and adjust the torque management. Remember, you want some torque management set in still and do not want to clear it 100% especially for the 2-3 shift. Having a transmission that breaks your neck when shifting isn’t necessary. You will break hard parts in a hurry. Good clean, crisp shifts is what we are after here.

    Now that you have everything apart you can start the assembly process. Get our your instructions start from the top. I have attached the instructions with a few little notes to go along with it. Tighten all VB bolts inside pan to roughly 8-10 ft lbs. Again be sure you get your bolts in the right holes!! When re-filling transmission with fluid, make sure truck is on level ground. Start by pouring in 4-5 quarts then check. Remember you still have fluid in the torque converter (if you did this in the truck) When you see fluid on the dipstick start the truck and get to operating temperature. While truck is warming up, check for any obvious leaks. Set the parking brake and put the transmission ins neutral position. Then fill as needed.. Then put the truck in drive and make sure it engages all gears (D,3,2,1) and reverse. Road test. Monitor for transmission engaging all gears correctly and downshifts. Recheck for leaks after test.

    Summary.

    This might seem like a tall task to handle but it really isn’t. Again if you are mechanically inclined you can do it. The best thing you can do is stay clean. Stay organized. (OCD is not a bad thing in this case). Double check your work, if anything triple check if it makes you feel better.

    ***DISCLAIMER***

    I AM NOT THE ORIGINAL WRITER OF THIS HOW-TO. I OBTAINED PERMISSION TO RE-POST FROM THE ORIGINAL AUTHOR. Here is the original link: http://www.silveradoss.com/forums/topic/67343-shift-kit-w-servo-how-to-write-up/
     
  4. Frogfish

    Frogfish BlueDevil

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    The Corvette Servo thread

    Props to xlcooplx!

     
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  5. 07sierraclassic

    07sierraclassic New Member

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    My truck shifts really hard at about 1/2-3/4 throttle from first to second. Is this something that the vetted servo could help eliminate?

    Sent from my DROIDX using Xparent Red Tapatalk
     
  6. xlcooplx

    xlcooplx turning wrenches

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    Doubtful. I've found that my crew cab bangs from 1st to 2nd around 1/4 throttle. I believe it's mostly in the factory tune calibration more than anything. I need to break out my EFILive and see about changing the parameters. If anything, the vette servo makes the shift quicker, but not necessarily any less harsh.
     
    Last edited: Mar 25, 2012
  7. Peyton676

    Peyton676 New Member

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    If anything it will become a littler firmer,i dont see how anyone could think a stock truck/stock tune could have a harsh shift
     
  8. Jared

    Jared Administrator Staff Member

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    It didn't make mine any less harsh before the tune, just firmer and quicker.
     
  9. Peyton676

    Peyton676 New Member

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    Im going to make you guys a vid of the fairbanks and OD since the tune
     
  10. Samuel6731

    Samuel6731 Cant Get Right

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    billet servo is the way to go.
    vette servo was a waist for me IMO. I could have just boosted line pressure for that.
     
  11. Peyton676

    Peyton676 New Member

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    I wouldnt say it was a waist ,i mean for what you pay for them...
     
  12. Samuel6731

    Samuel6731 Cant Get Right

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    for what you pay for the servo no.
    Time being spent putting it in or the $20-$50 for install i would say so.
     
  13. Peyton676

    Peyton676 New Member

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    This sticky was made to show these guys a how to:
    So they dont have any additional cost of there 15 dolla servo
     
  14. Frogfish

    Frogfish BlueDevil

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    Please do! I'm thinking about getting the fairbanks and transgo shift kit
     
  15. Peyton676

    Peyton676 New Member

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    I wouldnt set it up with a shift kit, i srs
    Sams sonnax/shift kit is wild
    My fairbanks and OD is wild also im scared to put the boost valve they sent me in which suppostly it helps big time but i dont need any more
    Most ppl set the vette/transgo up
    If you get on pt.net they say the fairbanks isnt the best idea for a stock trans, performabuilt doesnt use the fairbanks until lvl 3 if that says anything.
     
  16. Jared

    Jared Administrator Staff Member

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    I got this from Rhino79 over at PerformanceTrucks.net Forums - Powered by vBulletin

    original thread: http://www.performancetrucks.net/fo...22/corvette-servo-install-w-alot-pics-476223/

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  17. Jared

    Jared Administrator Staff Member

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    Should help
     
  18. Jared

    Jared Administrator Staff Member

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    Threads have been merged. I received permission by rhino79 to use his info/pics
     
  19. 2BFAST

    2BFAST New Member

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    First of all, thanks for refrencing my how-to on your site. Hopefully it helps many of you with your trans questions and possibly the ones that questioned themself if they could perform this task or not. Please feel free to email me with any questions you might have regarding this. bmurta@midwaytrucks.com

    The vette servo will not eliminate this. Did this "hard shift" all the sudden start or has progressivly gotten more firm? Something to try is to clear the adaptive shift in the PCM. This means the PCM will adapt to driving habbits of the driver. Take for example, somone that gets into an 80 year old grandma car, it will shift nice, smooth, and soft. Get into a car with an 18 year old and the trans will shift firmer. This is why I asked if it progressivly got firmer.


    Boosting line pressure is not something to practice. As stated in the thread, the vette servo yields a larger apply area which aids in the apply and release of the 2-4 band. This effects strictly the apply and release of the 2-4 band. Increasing line pressure to achieve this effects the entire hydraulics of the trans. Paying someone 50 bucks to install one is a waist as it can be installed with very basic hand tools.

    Also, when comparing the billet 2nd to the covette 2nd. I have ran both and I have also ran two different brands of billets. To me paying 70 bucks for a billet and 15 or so for the vette when they honestly perform the same is a no brainer. I have heard guys say the billet 2nds "hit" harder. Again, we dont need rock crushing 1-2 shifts. This is how you break stuff. Firm and quick apply and release is all we want here.
     
    Last edited: Mar 27, 2012
  20. Da_Rebel

    Da_Rebel Just another guy

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    What is your opinion on torque management removal? I won't be towing anything at all, and if I ever do haul anything, it won't be more than 3-400 lbs. Black Bear Performance is coming into town, and I was thinking about having 50% TM removed on standard, and 100% on sport mode\tow-haul button.
     

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